S-400 can outperform Ater and Patriot(PAC-3)?

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SatanD

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TRIUMPH ADVANCES TO FIRING LINE

The missile was launched without a hitch in the closed control loop at 12.25 Moscow time and engaged its target precisely at the desired point. The main objective of these tests was the functional check of new electronic equipment and software at the ground facilities, as well as the evaluation of missile guidance efficiency.

The Triumph's leading developer is the Almaz Central Design Bureau. According to Alexander Lemansky, General Designer of the Bureau, the comprehensive manufacturer's tests of the new-generation air defense missile system have demonstrated that it possesses considerably higher performance qualities in terms of the engagement envelope, effectiveness, and a variety of potential targets than was available with the previous generation systems. This phase of the preliminary design tests is scheduled to be completed by late 1999, A. Lemansky stressed.

The S-400 system is intended to engage current and future air threats such as tactical and strategic aircraft, Tomahawk cruise missiles and other type missiles, including precision-guided ones, as well as AWACS aircraft, at ranges of up to 400 km. It can also detect stealth aircraft and other targets at all altitudes of their combat employment and at maximum ranges.

Air Force Colonel General Anatoly Kornukov, Air Force Commander-in-Chief, characterizes the Triumph air defense system as a fourth-generation system with a brilliant future because its components are based on the most advanced know-how in the field of radiolocation, missile manufacturing, microcircuitry and computing technology.

Work on the development of the S-400 air defense missile system is a visible embodiment of cooperation among weapon developers. Besides the Almaz Central Design Bureau, these include leading enterprises of the Russian defense industry, such as the Fakel Machine-Building Design Bureau, the Novosibirsk Research Institute of Measuring Instruments, the St. Petersburg Special Machine-Building Design Bureau, and a number of others.

General Designer Vladimir Svetlov, head of the Fakel Bureau-the leading developer of missiles for the S-400 systems-underlines that the Triumph is the first system in the country and, perhaps, in the world that can selectively use several types of missiles, both previously developed SAMs and the new, unique SAMs.

"The long-range missile," Vladimir Svetlov says, "has no analogs. The other missile, the 9M96, does have foreign counterparts, such as an advanced American missile for the PAC-3 Patriot system, but outperforms it, as well as the French Aster, in terms of overall effectiveness by approximately twofold."

The two versions of the 9M96 medium-range missile (9M96E and 9M96E2) were discussed in detail in the March/Apr '99 issue of Military Parade. As for long-range missiles capable of engaging various targets at ranges of up to 400 km, It is premature to describe them, let us only note here that they are available and ready for trials.

The Triumph air defense system can also use 48N6E missiles of the S-300PMU-1 system and 48N6E2 missiles of the S-300PMU-2 Favorit system. Incidentally, the 48N6E missile was successfully test-fired on February 12, 1999.

A high degree of automation at all phases of battle performance, as well as modern types of circuitry, has made it possible to considerably reduce the attending personnel of the S-400 air defense system. The principles of construction and the ramified communications network of the S-400 system allow its integration into different level chains of control throughout the Air Force and other armed services. The arrival of the Russian Federation Defense Minister, Igor Sergeyev, at the test site is indicative of the importance of the next phase of Triumph trials. He told journalists that it was too early to sum up the results before the commencement of the state tests. However, it is expedient, in his opinion, to make investments into the development of the S-400 air defense system because in terms of the effectiveness-cost ratio it is 2.5 times more proficient than the now-functioning systems.

Sergei Babichev, Leonid Yakutin



Is it true, or is it just propagandist tests? 'cause there's nothing in Russia that can be compared to Aster...
 
...Первая - ракета дальнего действия, - рассказал в частности Владимир Светлов, - которая, как вы теперь уже знаете, способна поражать цели на расстоянии до 400 километров, не имеет аналогов в мировой практике. Вторая ракета - 9М96, превосходит примерно в два раза подобную ей перспективную американскую систему “Patriot” Pac-3, равно как и французскую систему ПВО “Aster”... (Страница не найдена | Авиапанорама)

Почему бы и нет? Когда наши системы ПВО слабыми были? А вы - француз? Как самоуверенно:
>>there's nothing in Russia that can be compared to Aster :D
 

DNP

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Guest, 16.08.2003 20:28:05:
...Первая - ракета дальнего действия, - рассказал в частности Владимир Светлов, - которая, как вы теперь уже знаете, способна поражать цели на расстоянии до 400 километров, не имеет аналогов в мировой практике.
 

В НВО нашел упоминание о ней - называли ее что-то типа 40Н6. <_<

Не врут журналюги?
 
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SatanD

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400km????????????????
are you kidding? it's gotta have ballistic trajectory (me thinks....)
Or Russians are far superior in SAMs field? Hard to believe...
 

MD

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SatanD, 16.08.2003 21:10:07:
400km????????????????
are you kidding? it's gotta have ballistic trajectory (me thinks....)
Or Russians are far superior in SAMs field? Hard to believe...
 

Actually, both, pal: The missile in question does have ballistic trajectory, and Russians are not far, but somewhat superior in this field.
 
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SatanD

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hmmm, but...Aster has a very high agility and can get something like 60g.
Can S-400 do something like it?

>>>The missile in question does have ballistic trajectory


I'm talking about SAM...

>>>Tomahawk cruise missiles and other type missiles, including precision-guided ones, as well as AWACS aircraft, at ranges of up to 400 km. It can also detect stealth aircraft and other targets at all altitudes of their combat employment and at maximum ranges.


How can it detect stealthy T-hawk?
Or some kind of stealth plane? :blink:
 
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SatanD

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What Ukraine's Kolchuga radar does

The team is in Kiev at a time of growing Nato concern

By Jonathan Marcus
BBC defence correspondent

The controversy surrounding the Kolchuga radar is worthy of a Cold War spy novel.

Wrongly dubbed by some as a radar that can spot stealth aircraft, the alleged provision of the system to Iraq is inevitably provoking some tensions between Ukraine and the United States.

The arrival of the team represents something of a sticking plaster being applied over what could become a gaping wound in relations

The Kolchuga radar is manufactured by a Donetsk-based company called Topaz and is marketed by a state-owned organisation called UkrspetsExport.

Its director general, Valery Malev, was killed in a road accident in March of this year, just before a parliamentary commission announced that it had evidence suggesting illicit Ukrainian weapons sales to Iraq.

Amidst all the murky conspiracy theories, it is very hard to get firm details about the capabilities of the system.

However, unlike normal radars which send out waves that bounce back from the target, Kolchuga is a passive system.

In other words, it detects emissions coming from the target aircraft.

This would make it far less capable against stealth or radar-evading technology because by definition these planes have little or no active emissions.

If the Kolchuga system is being used by Iraq, it poses far more of a threat to conventional non-stealthy aircraft - the types of British and US warplanes that are patrolling the no-fly zones over Iraq every day.

President Saddam Hussein has made no secret of his desire to shoot down one of these aircraft.

And given the frequency of the flights, US and British pilots have depended upon skill and a good deal of luck so far to avoid any losses.

Kolchuga would be far less significant in any large-scale US assault against Iraq where the country's air defence system as a whole would be an early target.

The row over Kolchuga is symptomatic of the wider problems between Ukraine and the West.

Nato sources have told the BBC that there is growing concern within the alliance's headquarters in Brussels about the direction being taken by President Leonid Kuchma.

The arrival of the US and British team to discuss the radar issue represents something of a sticking plaster being applied over what could become a gaping wound in relations.


BBC NEWS | Europe | What Ukraine's Kolchuga radar does

The row over alleged radar sales to Iraq is a symptom of wider problems between Ukraine and the West, writes the BBC's Jonathan Marcus.

// news.bbc.co.uk
 

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is this true?
 
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TheFreak

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SatanD, 18.08.2003 03:01:17:
>>>The missile in question does have ballistic trajectory

I'm talking about SAM...
 

Any problem with that?
 
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SatanD

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Блин, какой он нудный - это кошмар какой-то!

What's up with that?

Oh, and take a look at this discussion and tell me what do you think about it...
 
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TheFreak

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По-моему, это и дискуссией назвать нельзя.

А вы случайно не Satan2003?
 
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SatanD

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motherfu-king piece of sh-t impying that Russian misisles aren't maneuverable...now --- that is stupid!

А вы случайно не Satan2003?

ohhh...I wish...
 

TbMA

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tell him that "Patriot" have a litle more fins, but still can't hit shit
 

MD

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Сходил я по ссылке - клоуны они все до одного в этом форуме, на обеих сторонах спора. Сравнивают С-400 с Патриотом... это как если спросить, что лучше - спортивная ммашина или паровоз с полным бункером угля и баком воды...
 Наши споры по сравнению с тем базаром - настоящий ученый совет.
 
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TheFreak

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MD, 22.08.2003 12:09:42:
Наши споры по сравнению с тем базаром - настоящий ученый совет.
 

Да, я тоже нашей Базой загордился.
 

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