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Russian gunboat Bk 1124 in 1/20e scale
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76-mm tank gun mod. 1927/32, in the main tower of the tank T-35.
76-mm tank gun mod. 1927/32, in the main tower of the tank T-35.
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kkg1960>>>>> БM 8-24
kkg1960> 76-mm tank gun mod. 1927/32, in the main tower of the tank T-35.
emblem - a five-pointed star
kkg1960> 76-mm tank gun mod. 1927/32, in the main tower of the tank T-35.
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http://forums.airbase.ru/2015/12/t67585,43--postrojka-modeli-bronekatera-pr-1125.4948.html
http://forums.airbase.ru/2015/12/t67585,43--postrojka-modeli-bronekatera-pr-1125.4948.html
AlainFr> Hello to all,
AlainFr> I allow to put on-line on this forum a new building because it concerns a Russian ship and because I thus hope to obtain here information in my diverse questions!
AlainFr> Here is thus the new model that I begin on the scale of the 1/20th made from this plan which you doubtless know :
AlainFr> First of all, I would want to know if there were units of built with a turret of T-28 and a rocket launcher M-8 or M-13?
These drawings was released in 2005-06, and on starting the PC it is not accurate. In 2009 the authors in "four hands" measured and studied launcher "РСов", that stood in the hall CVM (photo on the forum posted). Modified the drawing of the launchers was published in the collection of "Boats mobilized for the war" part 2.
AlainFr> I allow to put on-line on this forum a new building because it concerns a Russian ship and because I thus hope to obtain here information in my diverse questions!
AlainFr> Here is thus the new model that I begin on the scale of the 1/20th made from this plan which you doubtless know :
AlainFr> First of all, I would want to know if there were units of built with a turret of T-28 and a rocket launcher M-8 or M-13?
These drawings was released in 2005-06, and on starting the PC it is not accurate. In 2009 the authors in "four hands" measured and studied launcher "РСов", that stood in the hall CVM (photo on the forum posted). Modified the drawing of the launchers was published in the collection of "Boats mobilized for the war" part 2.
AlainFr
AlainFr
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Hello,
Many thanks for tese pictures and drawings!.
So i want to make a model as Geschosswerfer_variante II with a T-35 turret and BM8-24 rockets.
But for this picture, are you sure that is a BM 8-24 model?.
@+
Alain
Many thanks for tese pictures and drawings!.
So i want to make a model as Geschosswerfer_variante II with a T-35 turret and BM8-24 rockets.
But for this picture, are you sure that is a BM 8-24 model?.
@+
Alain
AlainFr> So i want to make a model as Geschosswerfer_variante II with a T-35 turret and BM8-24 rockets.
AlainFr> But for this picture, are you sure that is a BM 8-24 model?.
AlainFr>
Кто силён в иностранных языках, объясните пожалуйста AlainFr, что таких вариантов не было.
Ладно себе мозги за....ем, иностранцам то зачем?
AlainFr> But for this picture, are you sure that is a BM 8-24 model?.
AlainFr>
Кто силён в иностранных языках, объясните пожалуйста AlainFr, что таких вариантов не было.
Ладно себе мозги за....ем, иностранцам то зачем?
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Alain, you need this book
She is in a network...
She is in a network...
В.1.> Alain, you need this book
Владимир, отличный ответ!
Только поясни, пожалуйста, товарищу AlainFr, что реконструкция на стр.11 и стр.14 ошибочна. Т.е. не соответствует фото на стр.12. И конечно реконструкция по модели на стр.78 выполнена правильно, но сама модель – ???
Владимир, отличный ответ!
Только поясни, пожалуйста, товарищу AlainFr, что реконструкция на стр.11 и стр.14 ошибочна. Т.е. не соответствует фото на стр.12. И конечно реконструкция по модели на стр.78 выполнена правильно, но сама модель – ???
AlainFr
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Hello everybody,
And many thanks for your help!
But it's not easy for me to understand because the translet by google is a little approximate!
1945, you say that a model in configuration turret T-35 and rockets BM 8-24 has not existed ? red cross on your figure?.
But i have buy the book indicated and when i see the part marked, i can think that a ship with BM 8-24 has well existed?.
Otherwise, if i must build a model with my T-35 turret and a rocket 16-M-13, i don't have the plan of this last launch rocket!.
What is your answer ??!! : D
Best regards and thanks in advance!
Alain
And many thanks for your help!
But it's not easy for me to understand because the translet by google is a little approximate!
1945, you say that a model in configuration turret T-35 and rockets BM 8-24 has not existed ? red cross on your figure?.
But i have buy the book indicated and when i see the part marked, i can think that a ship with BM 8-24 has well existed?.
Otherwise, if i must build a model with my T-35 turret and a rocket 16-M-13, i don't have the plan of this last launch rocket!.
What is your answer ??!! : D
Best regards and thanks in advance!
Alain
AlainFr> 1945, you say that a model in configuration turret T-35 and rockets BM 8-24 has not existed ? red cross on your figure?.
Yes!
AlainFr> But i have buy the book indicated and when i see the part marked, i can think that a ship with BM 8-24 has well existed?.
БКА 1124 – No!
БКА 1125 – Yes!
AlainFr> Otherwise, if i must build a model with my T-35 turret and a rocket 16-M-13, i don't have the plan of this last launch rocket!.
AlainFr> What is your answer ??!! : D
see chart
Best regards,
Alexander.
Yes!
AlainFr> But i have buy the book indicated and when i see the part marked, i can think that a ship with BM 8-24 has well existed?.
БКА 1124 – No!
БКА 1125 – Yes!
AlainFr> Otherwise, if i must build a model with my T-35 turret and a rocket 16-M-13, i don't have the plan of this last launch rocket!.
AlainFr> What is your answer ??!! : D
see chart
Best regards,
Alexander.
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Hello ,
Thanks a lot Alexander, i think that i good understand now!.
BK 1124 with T-35 turret and BM 8-24 ...... no !
BK 1124 with T-35 turret and BM 13 ..... yes, it's good !
So i research pictures and drawings of this launch rockets !
but if you have more, i take !
So long
Alain
Thanks a lot Alexander, i think that i good understand now!.
BK 1124 with T-35 turret and BM 8-24 ...... no !
BK 1124 with T-35 turret and BM 13 ..... yes, it's good !
So i research pictures and drawings of this launch rockets !
but if you have more, i take !
So long
Alain
Hello, Alain
On the "БКА-1124" is not used Fitting "M-8-M" and "24-M-8". It is better to build a model " БKA №119". The model will be a real boat with a "16-M-13". On the boat with tank tower T-28 and the "M-13-M" or "16-M-13" is not a sufficient number of drawings and photos. In the boat with a tower T- 28, another body, another wheelhouse and everything else.
Regards,
Alexander.
On the "БКА-1124" is not used Fitting "M-8-M" and "24-M-8". It is better to build a model " БKA №119". The model will be a real boat with a "16-M-13". On the boat with tank tower T-28 and the "M-13-M" or "16-M-13" is not a sufficient number of drawings and photos. In the boat with a tower T- 28, another body, another wheelhouse and everything else.
Regards,
Alexander.
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Сейчас, в настоящее время, москве, в ЦМВС группа энтузиастов восстанавливает бронекатер 1124 проекта.
вскрыли отсеки, снимают слои краски, расхаживают имеющиеся механизмы и вооружение. интересные снимки изнутри и тд.. думаю, кто строит 1124 стоит присмотреться к этому бронекатеру. и конечно же с оригинала строить модель.
вскрыли отсеки, снимают слои краски, расхаживают имеющиеся механизмы и вооружение. интересные снимки изнутри и тд.. думаю, кто строит 1124 стоит присмотреться к этому бронекатеру. и конечно же с оригинала строить модель.
AlainFr
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Hello everybody,
Well many thanks Alexander for your help!
So the boat n°119 is with a T-34 turret and 16-M-13, and not a T-35 turret.
So am i obliged to build a T-34 turret?
Have you not a example of a boat with T-35 and 16-M-13 launch rockets?.
I have find this picture :
i think that is a possibility?.
Alain
Well many thanks Alexander for your help!
So the boat n°119 is with a T-34 turret and 16-M-13, and not a T-35 turret.
So am i obliged to build a T-34 turret?
Have you not a example of a boat with T-35 and 16-M-13 launch rockets?.
I have find this picture :
i think that is a possibility?.
Alain
AlainFr> Alain
Authentic drawings on the BCA in 1124 with the tower T-35 ( T- 28, right ), no one else . The body of the BKA with towers T-28 ( T-35 ) is quite different than that of BCA with towers T-34 .
Compare drawing and photo
In general, how do you want
Authentic drawings on the BCA in 1124 with the tower T-35 ( T- 28, right ), no one else . The body of the BKA with towers T-28 ( T-35 ) is quite different than that of BCA with towers T-34 .
Compare drawing and photo
In general, how do you want
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Hello everybody,
Alexander, is it true that i make what i want!
But i prefer to build someting just!
So I would want to be sure that I have to build a turret of T-34?
But it's not a turret easy to build !
And i have another problem !
When we see all the plans and drawing, we can see a "opening" in the hull at port :
But on the book, if i'm not mistaken,i have found only a picture with this opening, on the Bka n°115 :
what is your opinion on this?.
Thank you in advance on behalf of an irritating guy!
Alain
Alexander, is it true that i make what i want!
But i prefer to build someting just!
So I would want to be sure that I have to build a turret of T-34?
But it's not a turret easy to build !
And i have another problem !
When we see all the plans and drawing, we can see a "opening" in the hull at port :
But on the book, if i'm not mistaken,i have found only a picture with this opening, on the Bka n°115 :
what is your opinion on this?.
Thank you in advance on behalf of an irritating guy!
Alain
AlainFr>> Alain
1945> Authentic drawings on the BCA in 1124 with the tower T-35 ( T- 28, right ), no one else . The body of the BKA with towers T-28 ( T-35 ) is quite different than that of BCA with towers T-34 .
1945> Compare drawing and photo
1945> In general, how do you want
Я конечно извиняюсь, но кажется Вы что-то перепутали с рисунки 24-го и 25-го проектов.
Носовая башня пр. 1125 находилась ближе к рубке, чем башня пр. 1124.
Это 1125.
1945> Authentic drawings on the BCA in 1124 with the tower T-35 ( T- 28, right ), no one else . The body of the BKA with towers T-28 ( T-35 ) is quite different than that of BCA with towers T-34 .
1945> Compare drawing and photo
1945> In general, how do you want
Я конечно извиняюсь, но кажется Вы что-то перепутали с рисунки 24-го и 25-го проектов.
Носовая башня пр. 1125 находилась ближе к рубке, чем башня пр. 1124.
Это 1125.
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kkg1960> Я конечно извиняюсь, но кажется Вы что-то перепутали с рисунки 24-го и 25-го проектов.
Извиняться не надо На фантазийном рисунке и фото один и тот же пр.1124. Только на рисунке вместо кормовой башни изображена установка 16-М-13. На фото БКА из первой серии пр.1124. Там даже я, с худыми коленками, не протиснусь между носовой башней и рубкой. Эта серия очень отличалась от последующих серий. Чертежей первой серии, думаю, никто не видел. Только несколько фото. Поэтому даже Ваня Черников (большой фанат речных кораблей, нарывший очень много материала) не осилил реконструкцию и начертил чертеж, взяв за основу пр.1124 сдачи 1941 года, пририсовав иллюминаторы, как на фото. А вот пропорции в расположении рубки и башни не выдержал.
Извиняться не надо
На фантазийном рисунке и фото один и тот же пр.1124. Только на рисунке вместо кормовой башни изображена установка 16-М-13. На фото БКА из первой серии пр.1124. Там даже я, с худыми коленками, не протиснусь между носовой башней и рубкой. Эта серия очень отличалась от последующих серий. Чертежей первой серии, думаю, никто не видел. Только несколько фото. Поэтому даже Ваня Черников (большой фанат речных кораблей, нарывший очень много материала) не осилил реконструкцию и начертил чертеж, взяв за основу пр.1124 сдачи 1941 года, пририсовав иллюминаторы, как на фото. А вот пропорции в расположении рубки и башни не выдержал.
AlainFr> what is your opinion on this?.
Hello, Alain
Build a model, as in the photo BKA №119 (15.04.2016). Tower T-34 and no recess at anchor there. This will be a true model. Without fantasies.
Regards,
Alexander.
Hello, Alain
Build a model, as in the photo BKA №119 (15.04.2016). Tower T-34 and no recess at anchor there. This will be a true model. Without fantasies.
Regards,
Alexander.
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